Written By Alarissa
May 7, 2018, 12:30 p.m.(9/13/1008 AR)
Written By Jonathan
May 7, 2018, 12:03 p.m.(9/13/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Genevieve
(Included in the entry is a picture of a farmhouse with a myriad of stick cows, pigs, and chickens, with two little stick people in the middle of it all. One has a bow and is shooting the other, who is laughing about it. Or maybe he's crying. It's hard to tell, it's a /really/ bad doodle)
Written By Victus
May 7, 2018, 11:57 a.m.(9/13/1008 AR)
I've been called 'old school' a couple of times on my thoughts toward folk's relations. When I was growing up I was given next to no expectations on peerage and the like finding matches for 'love', even before it was expected that I'd go beyond just being a bastard. Even being an acknowledged blood of Thrax was good enough for those lessons, because unions between Houses are just that damn important. Marriages between nobility in my mind should always be for the benefit of their family's and their people first and foremost. If you're only thinking of your personal gain before that, then something is wrong.
What I think is often difficult to realize is that so long as you hold your place among nobility, facets of your personal life no longer belong to you. You have obligations, responsibilities, and honor to your House and family that's expected of you. "Fuck who you like if you like them" said wiser Islanders than I when I was a youngin, "But when you put your name on the line, shit gets serious". Because a promise is a promise, an oath is an oath. One broken promise or one broken oath too damn many. You need to own what's been done, walk your line to forgiveness and show you mean it. From personal experience, being humbled the hard way is often the quickest road to that realization.
If you don't like the person who you married, then ask yourself first, 'what is this providing my family, my brothers and sisters back home who I've vowed to stand by always and our gods who's guidance we cherish'? Because then, only then if it's really fucking things up should you consider just how serious you need to take stepping out of those vows.
To knowingly enter a union is to commit, body and soul to the purpose you've sworn to. Whether it's marriage, soldiering, knighthood, etc. All of it is fucking important. Stand by them.
Written By Genevieve
May 7, 2018, 11:56 a.m.(9/13/1008 AR)
Written By Vanora
May 7, 2018, 11:40 a.m.(9/13/1008 AR)
I should not have mentioned the Most Holy Dominus in such a public manner. It was disrespectful to him and to The Faith as a whole. My most sincere apologies to the Dominus, to Legate Orazio, and to the Faith for such a shortsighted and ill considered posting.
I understand that oaths are incredibly serious, and that there is genuine concern that I broke mine. I do not deny the truth of that, I am indeed an Oathbreaker, and have to reconcile with that truth. Whatever the circumstances, whatever the reasons, I took a vow and did not keep it. I will be paying the price for that decision for a long time to come. I am aware that this broken oath makes many dubious that I am able to keep my word at all, but no defense of myself, no words, will change that. Nothing short of time will prove to the Compact that my word and my vows are important to me.
I thank all of you, both those who wrote of their support via the Whites or through letters, and those who called me out on the severity of bonds broken.
Written By Niklas
May 7, 2018, 11:24 a.m.(9/13/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Itzal
Written By Orazio
May 7, 2018, 11:02 a.m.(9/12/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Edain
What many nobles do not thoroughly realize is that they (or we, for although I am godsworn, I was raised with the obligations of the nobility on my heart) are some of the very few members of the Compact who have never had to work for their living. Oh, certainly, good nobles DO work, just as good priests do, in the duties they have been given. But members of the Church and the nobility exist, ultimately, on the blood, sweat, and labor of the commoners who we are meant to protect, to serve, and to form an example for. If a noble takes the tax revenue generated by his people, and does not serve them in return, then none can call them to account except the head of their house, or perhaps a liege, if a liege wishes to risk her other vassals becoming upset at her meddling. A noble may not be arrested by a commoner, and may only be judged by their peers. A noble has privileges in every aspect of their lives that even a wealthy commoner may not match. It is a position of great power that one is born into.
Which is why it has always been taught that it is a position of great responsibility, as well. The job of a noble, that which they receive all that hard earned tax money from, is to lead and represent their people, to the best of their abilities, in all aspects of their lives. We hold the oaths of a noble to a high standard, because all that binds us together as a people are the oaths of our leaders. It is only oath which makes it safe for merchants to travel through a lord's lands - for if the lord wished to seize the merchant's goods, and none as powerful as the lord spoke out against it, what recourse would the merchant have? It is only oath which makes it safe for lords and their people of different fealties to meet together and discuss issues and disputes without bloodshed - for if one lord were to slaughter another at one of these meetings and take their land, only the oathbound allies of that lord would move to intervene, and if oaths no longer matter then those lords could easily decide it was not worth the shedding of their own people's blood. This is why guest right is enshrined in our culture. Marriages among the nobility are meant to ensure the continuance of houses, and to promote and protect the best interests of the people we serve - it is our duty, rather than our pleasure, although the word 'duty' does seem to be falling out of fashion of late. Without being able to trust our oaths given to one another, every man or woman would stand alone, every fealty would be an island to itself, and we might as well simply fall back into the tribes we had before the Compact.
There are many people who defend the breaking of oaths with "What is the harm, if it makes them happy?" or "It is only a small oath, of no consequence." And yet, it is in the keeping of the small oaths where we prove ourselves worthy of the great. Would any of us trust a man who regularly lies about his own words to give the testimony which would decide whether someone lives or dies? More, it is in the keeping of our oaths that we maintain the trust of those who we have power over. This is as true for the Church as it is for the peerage - we are both, if we are honest, recipients of charity, relying on the generosity (and the sworn oaths) of those who take on the backbreaking work that keeps the Compact going.
If we cannot keep our oaths before our people, then how can we expect them to keep their oaths to us?
Written By Monique
May 7, 2018, 11 a.m.(9/12/1008 AR)
One keeps busy.
Written By Ignacio
May 7, 2018, 10:58 a.m.(9/12/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Khanne
However, being also Lycene, I know that not every vow and oath is for everyone. A fidelity vow for some is torture and they require multiple lovers. While this is not the path I desire, I am happy with my fidelity to my wife, I do understand some do not feel the way I do about it. That is alright.
My point is, one should not enter vows and take oaths they know they can not keep. If you do not know if you can or can not keep the vows you wish to take, self reflection is something that you should dive into. It is something to understand the truths of yourself before you can enter any use arrangement. If you know you can not keep your vows, enter vows that are in line with something that you can honor, at least in that regard, all shall know what to expect from the arrangement.
Written By Itzal
May 7, 2018, 10:50 a.m.(9/12/1008 AR)
Written By Edain
May 7, 2018, 10:21 a.m.(9/12/1008 AR)
But my failings asside, I do firmly believe that marrying to do what is best for your family can frequently be rewarded.
Those that know me closely know that I lost the first person I ever truly feel in love with some years ago, just a short time before my sister final threw enough shoes at me until I consented to look for matches. We sat down and established a criteria. We wanted strengthen ties with allies in the western half of Arvum. We wanted an ally that could offer us a greater naval strength. Given that our relationship with Tor are still strong but there were still fences to mend with Southport my sister believed then Lady Admiral Caelis ticked all the boxes and was the best tactical choice. Southport agreed and we moved forward.
We were already friendly. Then Duke Hadrian had asked me to give her riding lessons prior to all of this, which I suspect was him trying to plant the seeds of such match. Through our courtship we became true friends. before our wedding we realized we came to love each other. That our first act as husband and wife was fighting back to back fending off an ambush sealed that. The decision my sister helped me make for the good of the family rewarded me with a true abiding love.
Now I know this cannot be everyone's tale with marriage. And I still love the one that I lost, and I always will, but my love for Caelis will endure. It is different. It is powerful. My first love was like finding a beautiful flower or seeing the sunset for the first time. It struck me instantly and it changed me. My love with Caelis is one that we build together one stone at a time and together created a fortress.
Do not fear marrying for the good of your family nor the love you have to build. That hard work is often rewarded.
Written By Orazio
May 7, 2018, 10:08 a.m.(9/12/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Khanne
Written By Khanne
May 7, 2018, 9:44 a.m.(9/12/1008 AR)
Growing up, even as a heathen shaman of the barbarous north (I do write that with a note of humor, I assure you), as nobles we are taught the way of things. We were taught that while divorce does occur, it is rare and almost never looked upon as a good thing. It is a subject spoken about heavily to those who are about to wed, so that they understand the weight of the vows, the oaths, they are about to take. Marriage is not to be done frivolously, as divorces should not occur. They are proof that the people involved were not wise in their choices, were not strong in their convictions when they took oath, are too weak to make it work, put themselves before their House, and fail all those they promised the oath to.
I understand that here in Arx, people try to be progressive, to buck the system, to change societal views on social norms. But, this is how most of us were raised, and is a belief that many of us still hold strong to. Is it any wonder that brows are raised at so many recent divorces? It is surprising then that the trustworthiness of those so willing to break oaths is scrutinized? If they are so willing to break an oath to the Gods, the Spirits, the Fealties and Houses, as important as marriage, what other promises are they willing to break?
And in regards to someone trying to make this about gender blame... perhaps they should step back and look at who broke oaths, and so soon after promised themselves in marriage to another? Not even merely promised, but in just a matter of a couple months, WED another. Under the banner of the same fealty they just broke ties with. Would not the male be questioned as heavily if it were him doing so?
Though I may be long winded, and expect to have people gripe and moan about my words, my points are simple.
Marriage for nobles is supposed to be a deeply serious matter. Marital oaths should be taken with as much consideration as any other oath given to the Gods and/or Spirits.
Divorce should be a last resort and done only under extreme conditions. It should never be looked at as something to be taken lightly. A Divorce is the breaking of oaths, no matter if it is recognized and allowed or not. As one pointed out, a divorce is not an annulment. If we begin to not care that such oaths to Gods and Spirits are broken, if we treat it as "not a big deal at all" it weakens any oath we would vow to them.
Get married. Stay married. If you don't think you can adhere to your own word... don't get married.
Written By Oswyn
May 7, 2018, 9:44 a.m.(9/12/1008 AR)
No matter how trivial or silly-seeming, the journals still reflect the attitudes of the people at the particular time they were written, or at least are intended to do so. While everyone is encouraged to write their whites, not everyone chooses to do so. As time passes, the written record becomes increasingly our only knowledge of the past. The more contributions, the clearer a picture we paint.
Expressing one's opinion that certain topics are frivolous is also a completely valid thing to record.
Aside from that, thankfully the Scholars do not simply toss every missive into a big pit in the Archives for future generations to wade through; there are systems in place to organize things, and Scholars trained to assist in the recovery of information. It is easy to be overwhelmed by the sheer amount of content in the whites, but be assured the Scholars are dedicated to being guides. That is, in fact, one of the many reasons I am proud to be a Scholar: helping others find information and make sense of it.
This is, of course, just my opinion, but hopefully it is at least somewhat reassuring.
Written By Edain
May 7, 2018, 9:38 a.m.(9/12/1008 AR)
My personal feelings are that divorce are... well quite frankly I don't like it. When now Goodman Rook told me he was going to seek annulment I was not happy about it. I still am not. So I sympathize greatly with Princess Sorrel's feelings.
My discomfort does not change that our world has no simple answers as much as I wish that things could be as straight forward as black or white or as simple as questions that can be answered in terms of right and wrong. Maybe a better way to say it is that there is much involved in defining which is right and which is wrong.
That is why our religion is called the Faith. Just as we have faith in the gods to be there to give us the example to aspire to even though we rarely see thier hands upon us. We must also have faith that those that internet the will of the gods do so with justice and righteousness in mind. I have fallen down at this myself a few times recently, we all do at times. When I remember my faith though it is rewarded and in time I see the right of things that I feared.
Written By Tikva
May 7, 2018, 9:37 a.m.(9/12/1008 AR)
One may forgive Lady Monique and, now, Sir Corban, far more easily for a number of reasons, not least of which being that when they split, nobody abandoned any children.
But of course anyone and all must be held accountable for oathbreaking. If that was not part of what you thought about when you broke your oaths, what world did you live in? Surely not the world of Arvum.
Written By Gwenna
May 7, 2018, 9:28 a.m.(9/12/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Lorenzo
Written By Orazio
May 7, 2018, 9:19 a.m.(9/12/1008 AR)
And that, ultimately, rests on the heads of the heads of houses who do not exercise the proper thought and consideration regarding the sealing of marriages. A failure of judgment that I fear has been repeated by so hastily tossing the Lady Vanora into another marriage so soon after she has already broken her vows. It is my hope that this new marriage honors the gods at least as much as the last match dishonored them.
Written By Jonathan
May 7, 2018, 9:09 a.m.(9/12/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Ida
Written By Ida
May 7, 2018, 8:59 a.m.(9/12/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Veronica
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