Written By Calaudrin
Oct. 13, 2018, 10:15 p.m.(10/10/1009 AR)
Relationship Note on Silas
Written By Silas
Oct. 13, 2018, 10:08 p.m.(10/10/1009 AR)
The more you know, I guess.
Written By Gerard
Oct. 13, 2018, 10:07 p.m.(10/10/1009 AR)
However, this still gives him absolutely zero right to release the sword to anyone, any more than I could release Ida's store to another just because I live there and am entrusted with the keys.
Written By Aleksei
Oct. 13, 2018, 10:04 p.m.(10/10/1009 AR)
Relationship Note on Cambria
Written By Arik
Oct. 13, 2018, 10:03 p.m.(10/10/1009 AR)
Relationship Note on Cambria
If I were to go before Gloria and bet my sisters life on a duel and lose. Would she be enthralled? Would she be executed? I had no right to wager Khanne's life, but because we declared it before Gloria all reason must be lost?
Written By Gerard
Oct. 13, 2018, 10:02 p.m.(10/10/1009 AR)
That being said, it was wrong to stoop, and for that, I apologize.
Written By Cambria
Oct. 13, 2018, 9:57 p.m.(10/10/1009 AR)
The man himself has responded to certain journals quite succinctly himself, saving me a bit of ink. I do wish to add one point to the 'discussion,' at hand:
Sword's represent the honor of a House. That means they are a symbol made flesh. A Sword that acts disreputably, casts shame upon their House. This man was not even the Sword at the time, but made a bet of something he should not have. Worse still, as I understand it, the very duel itself was before Gloria. Do bets made before the gods get conveniently swept aside just because a person in question is both dead and a villain?
Written By Aleksei
Oct. 13, 2018, 9:57 p.m.(10/10/1009 AR)
Relationship Note on Gerard
Written By Gerard
Oct. 13, 2018, 9:47 p.m.(10/10/1009 AR)
Relationship Note on Aleksei
You made one of the most solemn vows it is possible to make, and then broke it. Whether the Faith has decided it has been sufficiently suffered for or not, I can hold my opinion, just as you can, that's the beauty of the Whites. just as your choice of coarse language does not make your arguments any more comprehensive. However, I have made my opinions known, and have decided it is probably best for all concerned if I go back to my training and leave such things to those with the stomach for them.
Written By Arik
Oct. 13, 2018, 9:38 p.m.(10/10/1009 AR)
Relationship Note on Aleksei
Use champions to settle duels, it's a tradition.
Use Whispers or the Faith to mediate disputes, it's a tradition.
Marriages are meant to be practical not love matches for the Peerage, it's a tradition.
Hierloom weapons belong to the House, not the Sword that carries it, it's a tradition.
Holdings belong to the House, not the Head of House at the time, it's a tradition.
If some head of house tried to abdicate their families claim to a holding, their family would have every right to ignore that and assert their rights. That is exactly what has happened here. Someone has done something they could not do and the family is asserting their rights over Vowkeeper.
Written By Aleksei
Oct. 13, 2018, 9:34 p.m.(10/10/1009 AR)
Relationship Note on Gerard
House Telmar doesn't get to simply wave away responsibility because we all know now that Everard was an honorless traitor. They should have publicly condemned Everard as soon as they heard about what he did to Bliss, not hold it as a potential condition of some negotiation. That is the very least they could have done, without any further condition.
It wasn't Everard's right to bet away House Telmar's heirloom weapon? Damn right it wasn't, but sometimes we have to live with consequences of the people who betray us. The mess Everard left behind is House Telmar's to clean up by right. The oaths he made as the _representative of House Telmar's honor_ are theirs to keep. Whether they wish they were or not.
Written By Gerard
Oct. 13, 2018, 9:23 p.m.(10/10/1009 AR)
Relationship Note on Aleksei
Written By Aleksei
Oct. 13, 2018, 9:11 p.m.(10/10/1009 AR)
And you fuckers call yourself _Oath_landers.
Written By Cambria
Oct. 13, 2018, 8:01 p.m.(10/10/1009 AR)
This isn't something that is going to change.
It is completely normal for us to base our opinions on our own moral beliefs. We are, at heart, either individualist or communitarian, hierchist or egalitarian. These are core attributes that would be difficult, if not impossible, to change.
But what we CAN do is make a conscious effort to catch ourselves when we make rapid judgment calls without the facts. We can educate ourselves on both sides of an issue and make an effort to use facts instead of feelings in our arguments.
What we CANNOT do is expect everyone to play by these rules. But that is okay because by understanding how an opposing view was developed, we can use that to form our own arguments. We can call out these biases. What we cannot expect is for facts to change their deeply held beliefs, no matter how ignorant those beliefs might be.
We can correct the lack of information, but we cannot really expect someone with a confident, sacrosanct opinion to change their minds. They will hold on to a belief even after it is proven factually incorrect because, as we sometimes are all guilty of, people can be confident idiots. Remember, facts have nothing to do with why another has their point of view.
The good news is that there are individuals in the middle, who may not have a deeply held opinion about sensitive topics or issues. These are the men and women who can be reached by logic and facts. It is nearly impossible to battle confident ignorance, but with facts, you can influence people who are undecided.
Let us strive not to fall victim to confident ignorance. Let us try to educate ourselves with facts instead of enabling ourselves with emotional bias.
Written By Khanne
Oct. 13, 2018, 7:58 p.m.(10/10/1009 AR)
Written By Juniper
Oct. 13, 2018, 7:49 p.m.(10/10/1009 AR)
Written By Perronne
Oct. 13, 2018, 7:46 p.m.(10/10/1009 AR)
But, sadly, I'm also pretty sure they're not surprised. I mean, in the last several years, so many commoners have been raised to nobility or married into nobility for minor reasons, or no reason at all, that I doubt Bliss Whisper is the only ambitious courtier looking around and wondering, "Why not me?" and figuring out whatever they can do to get a piece of that action. The nobility has created this situation, both by allowing traitors and scoundrels like Everard to flourish until their villainy boiled over...wait, that's mixing a metaphor, maybe 'like Everard to simmer until their villainy boiled over'? Maybe that's better. Yeah, I like that! Um, but anyway - both by not addressing the dishonorable in their own ranks (and it isn't like Everard is the only Sword recently been found to act without honor, but who was protected and defended by peers anyway), and by so devaluing the gaining of a noble position that it seems a height anyone might acquire.
I mean, I'm not really on Team Anyone here - sounds like Everard was a good face of the worst the nobility can be, but I can't say I like how Bliss Whisper has comported herself, either. Trying to force nobles into a marriage for herself or her children is extremely distasteful (especially to a House she claims she would not swear her service to), and she seems to think Telmar owes her the treatment they would give to an equal, and despite what the nobility likes to say when they want to be friends, the truth is that when a House's prestige or honor is on the line, commoners are not and shall never be treated as equals. Things like this are why! At this point, she's smeared a good amount of mud on their name, which is more vengeance than most commoners will ever see, so I think she should just accept a nice, large payout to go away, and go do something that gives her joy.
Written By Victus
Oct. 13, 2018, 7:45 p.m.(10/10/1009 AR)
Written By Gerard
Oct. 13, 2018, 7:44 p.m.(10/10/1009 AR)
Written By Cirroch
Oct. 13, 2018, 7:42 p.m.(10/10/1009 AR)
Relationship Note on Morrighan
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